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Cake day: July 15th, 2023

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  • One side has stats that have down that Roe V Wade massively reduced crime as less children were born into the system or unwanted. The burden of an unwanted child can ruin both the parents and childs life. We’ve seen how abortion bans can lead to doctors being scared to do anything in some situations causing the mother to die.

    The other side is people saying a fetus has a soul because an old book told them so.

    It’s pretty clear which side should be backed. Not saying either side is perfect, but one side has a lot more supporting evidence than the other.

    Let’s not forget, the pro choice side is just that, you have a choice. No one is forcing anything, the other side is. Again, the choice is clear to me.

    The example of pushing a woman down the stairs is silly. The reason why it’s worse if she’s pregnant is because you took away her choice and opportunity to have that baby, after she is dealing with all that comes with being pregnant. That is not the same as a person who is a month in and doesn’t want it, by her choice.







  • You’re really representing a lot of these with bad faith. It seems like you came into this thread with a view and used anything said to justify that view.

    Your first call out about and ignores the entire point being made and the clear double standard being called out. You seem more willing to play the victim than have an honest conversation on equality.

    Imagine if men behaved this way about women discussing double standards, it wouldn’t make you feel good. So why do it to men?


  • Nah, this is textbook double standards.

    You are part of the problem that is stopping true equality. If men have everywhere to work through issues so you need a special place to do it, how does that end. You forever stay locked in that safe space because men own the public forum? Or do you try to fight for your spot in the public forum, attacking the only place you allowed men to work through issues? Or do you want a place in the public forum and your own space?

    So by your own logic women have their own communities and the general forum is for men, because of this post. So should women be told not to discuss their issues in general forums like Ask Lemmy and stick to their own communities? I mean these are for men right? Seems messed up to me.

    Why not just let everyone have a seat at every table? Be truly open and equal, instead of men deciding what women can have and women deciding what men can have. It’s not a hard concept.

    It’s people like you that make the divide bigger every time you fight for “equality”.



  • Wow, thanks for taking the time and sharing all that!

    The only thing I could think of is The Order and their concept that if you have and others don’t you should be forced to give to them. I think it’s an interesting political view, but I took at as the way the Dream Walker built and consolidated power, not a remark on the real world at all. But I could just be naive about it.

    I would disagree about the second paragraph. I mean one book doesn’t even have any of the main chars in it till the very end. Then you have a lot of content around multiple groups or people they are going after.

    I can %100 understand the issue with the plot armor and ability to handle anything that comes up. Richard is made out to be this mega character that is essentially God, which does make some of the conflict feel weak. I can totally appreciate that.

    Well thanks for typing all that out and talking the time to break down your feelings on it. I’m always curious about how others see things I’ve built an attachment to that can blind you a little sometimes. I still stand by loving them, warts and all, but I’d never cast shade on anyone who doesn’t.