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Cake day: August 4th, 2023

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  • So, I accept the premise that something that started as an abbreviation can take on a different meaning than just what it stands for.

    And I do feel it’s most reasonable to consider the term “incel” to include an attitude of entitlement to sex without consideration for the bodily autonomy of whoever they feel should be providing it.

    But I think that attitude is already baked into the un-abbreviated form. The term “involuntarily celibate” implies bigoted entitlement. It implies a worldview in which someone (typically women) owe the person who identifies as “involuntarily celibate” sex.

    If someone wants to murder people and nobody will let themselves be murdered to satisfy the wannabe murderer’s impulse, well, the wannabe murderer clearly has some issues to work through anyway, but calling themselves “involuntarily murderless” or whatever is highly fucked. The wannabe murderer has to already be thinking in terms of entitlement to kill people to adopt or identify with that term.

    If someone is “celibate” and would prefer to be in a relationship, don’t call them “incel” or “involuntarily celibate” unless they’re entitled bigoted assholes about it, in which case just call them “incels”.

    If they’re “celibate” and would prefer to be in a relationship but isn’t bigoted about it… probably prefer whatever term they would prefer you use, but maybe something like “single and looking” would be a reasonable term.

    If they’re “celibate” and don’t want to be in a relationship and are bigoted, “volcel” or “MGTOW” (with a derisive dip in tone) is probably a reasonably good term.

    If they’re “celibate” and don’t want to be in a relationship and aren’t bigoted, again, whatever they prefer, but “asexual” and/or “aromantic” might be reasonable.


















  • I mean, you don’t get karma. Content does. And some of my posts/commenta have a net positive score and some have a net negative score. But I don’t have a karma score.

    And, yes, the points do matter to me. But honestly I get emotionally invested in seeing that my comment was controversial. (I don’t think I really want my posts to have net negative scores, but if a post has a lot of interaction but a net close-to-zero score, that’s often interesting to me.)

    And why would you be against such a change?

    I mean, first off, I don’t feel you’ve even explained it well enough for me to get what you’re even going for, and that makes me worry that you haven’t even thought it through for more than 10 seconds. Would these “well done” symbols be associated with users or posts/conments? (I’m guessing posts/comments because how would they prevent so-called “karma whoring” if they were associated with users?) What do you mean by “once a year?” (Do you really mean “once a year” or more like “any post that’s over a year old”?) Would the “well done” be just another way to represent the now-abstracted-away net score? Would upvoting/downvoting be disabled for posts/comments that have made the switch?)

    And that’s not to even mention the more technical considerations like “would this involve the creation of a background job subsystem in Lemmy to update the data behind the scenes?” and “how would the data in the database change when this once-a-year switchover happens?” and “how would this feature be rolled out to ensure continuous full functionality for users on both apps and LemmyUI?”

    But beyond that, even if we worked out the details of the design, making such a change has a cost. A cost in cognitive load for newcomers. A cost in maintenance for the developers (both core developers and app/client developers.) A cost in day-to-day usage. A cost in user base, because no change is going to be universally popular (maybe excepting bug fixes and invisible changes) and for some pretty large user-facing change like this, some folks are going to leave over it.

    Simplicity/elegance is a strength. New feature ideas are a dime a dozen. The best software projects are those that don’t adopt new features without a damned good reason.

    Edit: Oh, Jesus. I just read other comments you’ve made in this post and you’re talking about the number of posts/comments count, not karma. Yeah, you definitely weren’t explaining what you were going for well.


  • There’s nowhere where Lemmy shows a total karma for a user, is there? You can see their post/comment history how much each post/comment is upvoted/downvoted, but not any “total” karma score, right? (At least not without going through all of a user’s posts/comments and manually adding up the score. Or am I missing something obvious somewhere?)

    So, what points are you proposing we “zero out?”

    I doubt I’d be for any change like that no matter your answer, but wanted clarification anyway. Honestly I feel like what we’ve got here is pretty great and I’m not really interested in a lot of changes to what we have here myself.