I’m a dude, but I frequently browse BadWomansAnatomy. I was having a (calm, respectful) debate with a few users regarding how a lot of people that have “transitioned” still bear hallmarks of their former gender (I mentioned one of my long time friends who has gone from MTF and still looks the same. Kaitlin and Elliot are also good examples). The ban was because I dared to use the “dead names” of Elliot Page and Kaitlin Jenner! Oh the horror! 😱
I went to post in /r/rant how I just thought it was ridiculous and it was autoremoved because I mentioned the world “mod” in the title and I mentioned a specific community 🤣
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Yeah no you brought that shit on yourself.
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First of all, trans women actually show lower T levels than cis women because they’re literally taking medicine that blocks its production, and yes, cis women do produce testosterone too, just not from testicles. So whatever nonse you think you’re able to clock trans women with, you’re probably accusing cis women and being a real douche about it too.
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Second, dead naming is genuinely just a dick thing to do even outside the presence of the person in question, because you’re fundamentally saying that you care so little for someone that you’re not even going to respect their preferred form of being addressed, which like, why would ya go out of your way to be that asshole. You’re being that guy who insists on calling Tim Timothy all the time, why would you be doing that except to get under Tim’s skin? Stop being that guy and just call him Tim like a normal person who doesn’t need to have basic manners and zero effort good human behavior explained to them.
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Third, so you’re admitting outright you broke community rules and are still thinking the post in question being removed is unfair? I’m not normally a fan of powermodding but bro that’s not an excuse to be mad that you faced consequences for breaking the rules in broad daylight.
I can understand calling someone their dead name to their face, I never call my friend Sarah Andrew, because I respect her wishes. These are celebrities that are definitely not going to see this and people are getting pissed off about me referring to someone else. Respect is earned, not given freely. I don’t give a fuck if it’s Bradley Cooper, Brad Pitt or Kaitlyn Jenner. It’s like me referring to John Wayne (the actor) as Marion Morrison (his real name) and people flipping shit. Get a fucking grip people.
Hate speech is one thing, but apparently differing opinions aren’t welcomed though, regardless of how they’re stated.
Ok but it’s not like that. John Wayne is a stage name, you’re arguing against referring to trans people by their adopted legal name. It’s still being a dick, yes even if you swear that you totally have trans friends.
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I mean, did you intend to dead name them? If not, did you correct yourself?
Because if you did it intentionally, you’re an asshole. If you did it by mistake because you brain farted, but didn’t correct it, you’re an asshole. You did use the right names here, so I ain’t mad. But let me frame things for you.
If you went through the effort of changing what people call you from your first name to your middle name, anyone refusing to switch would be an asshole. Doing it if you were struggling with something major related to that name would make them a giant asshole.
IDGAF who it is, if they aren’t picking a name just to fuck with people, you fucking call them what they want to be called, period. Anything else is just douchebaggery.
Now, when you add in that dead naming trans people can be an act of aggressive verbal attack to trans people as a whole, the person doing so isn’t just an asshole, they’re a bigoted asshole.
Is that who you want to be? The person that fucks with people just trying their best to live a free and happy life? If that is who you want to be, I have to warn you that reddit is not the only place online you’ll end up barred from. And there are people that will treat you poorly because of being an asshole. Actions have consequences, and words can be a form of action. While I support your freedom to say what you want within the framework of general legality regarding incitement, that doesn’t mean anyone has to accept that kind of thing and let you spew nastiness.
So, take the ban like an adult. Accept that you fucked up enough for the community, and use that in the future to really think about the subject and decide who you want to be.
So, take the ban like an adult. Accept that you fucked up enough for the community, and use that in the future to really think about the subject and decide who you want to be.
I see this patronizing, judgmental language everywhere on the internet, and I’m pretty tired of it. OP is right to be annoyed.
Here’s an intelligent question: Why is R*ddit a place where every little infraction, real and perceived, attracts the account death penalty?
I literally just got permanbanned from BadWomansAnatomy because I made a joke comment saying “as a guy, I appreciate the change” when a woman said she switched from jeans to yoga pants as her daily clothing. My account is 11 years old, I have only ever been banned from two subs, up until about a few days ago when I have received two warnings (one on my main account and one one my porn account) a temp ban, and now a permaban.
The IPO has really made them super heavy handed in controlling what is “acceptable” because they gotta keep that money flowing and keep the board happy!
It’s not really any better here, you are already being mass downvoted for this valid criticism
Censorship here is worse than reddit I think even, I ragequit deleted my lemmy account a whille ago and I’m only back because I can’t use reddit. Lol. I will probably just evade the ban after my ISP gives me a new ip
Valid criticism? Using deadnames and putting “transitioned” sure ok.
Also hard to say they are being censored when you know, downvotes aren’t censorship. You might be anle to say what you want but that has consequences. Kinda sounds a little like op might have earned their ‘downvotes to oblivion’ or whatever
Oh by censorship I mean the amount of mild comments I had removed on my old account here
Yeah because you were being a dick.
God forbid someone says something out of line and have a differing opinion!
Not the point, but sure if you want to understand it that way, you’re free to do so. 🤷
The point is people are allowed to say something non politically correct and not be crucified for it.
But they’re not being crucified. They’re just being either down voted, or in the case of being banned, well, that’s a website’s owner deciding they don’t want to see this on their private property.
Just like you are free to on yours, BTW.
Yeah, Lemmy is way more politically left than Reddit, this post isn’t going to last very long here.
Like, the average Lemmy user is a Linux Obsessed Trans Communist that works in IT. Any user that is outside of that is most likely a minority on Lemmy. If you thought Lemmy was going to be less politically charged, I am sorry to say you won’t be finding less politics here than on Reddit.
Lemmy has zero chill even if you are a leftist, it’s like zero fun to post here, I tend to just lurk
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